helo all

me either - when they say R1 or R6 do they mean as in revision 1 or revision 6 maybe ? revision 6 being the 2009 SE version of it or something ? *shrugs*

better - faster engine I take it ? If so what CC or engine do they have ?

[mike_1985]

Originally Posted by Robgrizz

They have the R1 or R6 engine in them, lifted straight from the motorbike;)

Thought it was a bit like Ronsil

[LTR450 shaq]

if its ur 1st quad id go with the suzuki 400 great bike fairly quick and bomb proof engine

raptors r good mate but if its ur 1st one try some thing a bit smaller cc as they DONT HANDLE NOTHING LIKE A BIKE AT ALL so get used 2 a smaller 1 b4 u jump on the big boys toys, or just go for it an get a raptor an b carefull, if u dont treat em right they will **** you, ask many peeps on here they do bite if u miss treat em.

dont forget the hondas and suzukis tho mate, the honda 450, suzuki 450 and yam 450 will beat most 700/660 raptors hands down but these are more race quad speced.

if its just for road riding u carnt beat a 700 rap they will sit on dual carridgeways at top end for long unlike a 450 they will go bang if ur top end riding.

Originally Posted by ltr450

if its ur 1st quad id go with the suzuki 400 great bike fairly quick and bomb proof engine

raptors r good mate but if its ur 1st one try some thing a bit smaller cc as they DONT HANDLE NOTHING LIKE A BIKE AT ALL so get used 2 a smaller 1 b4 u jump on the big boys toys, or just go for it an get a raptor an b carefull, if u dont treat em right they will **** you, ask many peeps on here they do bite if u miss treat em.

dont forget the hondas and suzukis tho mate, the honda 450, suzuki 450 and yam 450 will beat most 700/660 raptors hands down but these are more race quad speced.

if its just for road riding u carnt beat a 700 rap they will sit on dual carridgeways at top end for long unlike a 450 they will go bang if ur top end riding.

I wanted to use it for both so am a bit confused by what you are saying because to start with your saying a 400 or 450 quad bike and then if its for road use a yamaha 700 - I wanted to use it ( hopefully ) for both on and off roading.

[LTR450 shaq]

Originally Posted by raptorme

I wanted to use it for both so am a bit confused by what you are saying because to start with your saying a 400 or 450 quad bike and then if its for road use a yamaha 700 - I wanted to use it ( hopefully ) for both on and off roading.

basically wot i was sayin is that if u are only road riding the 700 raptors good but as u siad ur gona be doing both well this is where its gona get messy with every ones opinions, really its what u want, i had raptors b4 660s not 700 and now i have an ltr450 which gets used every 2 weeks minimum and that off road road riding 1-2 times a week had bike for 1 year an a bit an no probs with engine and ask my mates how have 700s i will whoop there asses lol

as ur leanin towards the rap get it u will love it its a great bike, everyone has they own choice, personnly i find my 450 way lighter than a 700, much wider as standard than a 700 quicker than a 700 and 2 me rides much better than a 700 so now i reckon ive confused u more ah ...:001_uns ure:

[LTR450 shaq]

Originally Posted by Robgrizz

So, if the LTR is as you say "lighter than a 700, much wider as standard than a 700, quicker than a 700 and 2 me rides much better than a 700" why would anybody want a Raptor when they could have an LTR...

rob everything i said about the LTR is 100% factual i do not doubt that the raptor is a good quad but AS I SAID everyone has there opinion, and i just stated mine, i have owned 2 raptors and in the past and i feel the LTR is way better. everyone has there own opinion, put it this way my LTR out shines any of my mate raptors either 700 or 660 for the way it handels and way it moves. out on the big open road the raptor will move quicker past 60-70mph than the ltr but when off road do u ever get that quick.

[LTR450 shaq]

Originally Posted by Robgrizz

interesting points, I was just 'pushing' you on your opinion not challenging the rights and wrongs of it

I agree, everybody does have their own opinion:w00t:, wether its right or wrong (unless can be proven factually) is down to individual user taste/judgement etc...

its still an interesting debate, if the 400/450's of the world are lighter, faster, wider, more nimble etc, then why bother buying a Raptor? do we really need 600, 700, 800 or even 1000cc quad bikes?

the only reason i can think of buying a raptor and im not taking the piss is the fact they have the biggest engine so people think there the fastest, it has reverse and also it is good sitting at top end without blowing up apart from that can u think of anything else ???

The quad bikes mentioned ie the LTR450 and raptor 700 etc are all in band 7 of insurance and basically got told that they would insure me 3rd party only or not at all unless I drove for a year so as per my original post will be saving up in the mean time and get some extra driving time under my belt and fingers crossed they will insure me a year down the line or so.

Also they wanted a brick built garage as obviously with it being an expensive asset they want it stored somewhere safe for obvious reasons.

[mike_1985]

If they want a want brick built garage go and ebay and search for cardboard boxes !! That should put their mind at ease .

Dont understand why they cant insure you fully comp ? If the bike its worth more than 5k fully comp is a minimum no ?

I think what LTR is trying to say is that the Raptor is the 330ci of bikes , fast but heavy where the 450 are more race inspired like a honda s2000 . The Honda will always be faster in the twisties but the Bmw would be a more pleasant place to be .


1.You gottta ask yourself , how much off road would you be doing ? ( buy an OS map and see how many lanes you got in your area )

2.Are you racer or a cruiser ?

Theres no denying the raptor is brilliant but off road the 450's are pretty much 20% better
On road the raptor would just cruise at silly speed and you got reverse !

Hope I make sense